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Yes nix, i understand that heavy-handed irony, in which a speaker emphatically states the flat opposite of the truth, exemplifies a form of irony called sarcasm. But it's still irony fatty.

you got me there clever pants although as I pointed out, the fact that I was ignorant of the joke made me a victim reminiscent of Socratic Irony much in the same way that Alanis, by singing about irony without any understanding of it, unintentionally made herself an unwitting victim. Please feel free to continue the debate as this is a much needed counterpoint I feel to the horrible sports chatter pervading this board at the moment. p.s. did you get your definitions from the Wikipedia?

Just returned from a wee week away and someone, wonder who, has responded as moi. Anyway fix, I'll vote for the green party if the election is still open. Do you want to give us a call on the moby and catch up. Must get some gaming together up here soon. Let us know how you are placed and we can get the troops together. Hi to everyone of you sarcy barstewards as well. The real Stix

I think that I know who this is and am going to kick their arse the next time i catch up with them.

Hi Dex, you know I never believe anyone who has to confirm their honesty so mr culprit I'll hopefully be kickin your ass soon. Stix D