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i don't have ssh open from the internet as I don't need it and as my bandwidth here is limited I'm not sure I want to let people upload stuff (which will then be downloaded for viewing) i'm a greedy bandwidth boy simplest for you is to upload pics to grixnix.net - you still have nix's chocolate love page there - and then link to them when you post here if you have problems ssh-ing to grixnix.net let me know by email i have Jam on DVD if you are interested - what format would you need it in?

yeah i tried putty to get to x.x.x.222 but there was no reply - tried a few others (219,209,221,229) and still no reply

I have logged in as you successfully at 211 and I am sure you can remember the password